How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

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ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

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Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

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ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

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But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Why is Russia always right? All eyes toward Russian glory!

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

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ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

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Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

How do you leave a relationship when you are still in love?

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

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I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

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I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

Now here in this verse

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

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Sain (a barber)

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

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Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

then who is there to know what happens without?

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Kabir (a weaver)

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

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Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

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— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

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I am like a fish out of water,

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

CONCLUSION:

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.